Response on disciplinary actions often faced by Engineers during job period

DKT

Apprentice
Respected Members , if possible, elaborate how to reply / response on Memo , Show cause notices and other disciplinary actions often faced by Engineers during job period. Samples if any , kindly be provided.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Dnyan Deshmukh

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Disciplinary action is taken when the person or a boss do find that, the one working under him is not useful for him or obeying his instruction.

In most of the cases or all cases where such actions are taken, they directly mean that, the person who got memo, show cause notice, disciplinary action should leave the job as the person who took it, is not having the powers to do direct termination of employee, so he / she is making base to ensure they achieve what they have on their mind.

Such things often happen through the personal level slashes with each other and might not have anything to do with work.

Instead of looking at what we got in Memo or show cause notice, we should look at how our boss is behaving - it will tell you the untold truth.

If its not a boss or its just a normal practice in your company to send memo, show cause notices etc for the work which are not happening in required quality parameter. then you can do reply normally about what you are going to do on it.

In case when its a BOSS and he does not like you, you need to find the way to make yourself likable or respectable in his mind by doing actions which he /she like to happen.

The next step to so called disciplinary action (not memo or show cause notice) is to;

we should relax first and start thinking on the causes of such action.
We should make a fish bone diagram and write the causes which we think are making those action on each bone of it.
Let it be sound very sill, we should write it down.
Then we should think of what finally my boss want me to do.
Then find the actual causes of those action.
Take corrective actions on it and improve yourself even if you know, what you are doing is wrong but it makes your boss to feel good (do such thing only in case you wish to keep your job secure).

When you find that, there is no real reason for such actions and still you are getting it. you can better get another job.
There are infinite types of peoples mind and we might meet some real devils in lifetime which can screw without any reason till we either end up or accept what they want.

Responding to any letter is dependent of what is written in it and what they are trying to tell you.
In absence of details no one can guide anybody on what they can write in it.

All above my words are written by considering case of, the engineer who got disciplinary action is doing his regular works with good spirit and do not indulged in any scamming or malfunctioning practices.
 

DKT

Apprentice
These views are really very fruitful and sincerely thanking you for valued responses. However , here , It is to present that, in general , many govt departments have lack of sufficient nos of site engineers and technical assets unlikely as in MNCs ,which leads few lapses in quality of work on construction sites by contractor. And when any objections or clarification are asked from top authority on these lapses ,then in general, superior officer often issue show cause notices to their site engineers ( who has to supervise 3-4 sites situated at much distant each other alongwith office work) for submitting explaination for like "why action as deemed fit should not be taken on you for dereliction" or others . This nature are flows like blood in Bureaucrats . Normally, a lot of show cause notices and memos are be often faced by govt site engineers in their full job period for different reasons. Cleverly submitted response / reply may avoid from disciplinary action on site engineers.
Therefore, every engineer must know how to response on these notices , if happened with them.
Hence respected members ,if you have such type any sample replies on any matter, or you have faced such type incidents in their job life, then guidance may be helpful for many of us, and cordially invited to share such type experiences.
 
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amd007

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Please see the links for your query.

However would like to inform you that you have not shared what kind of memo was issued to you, hence the inability to guide you. But please be aware that you are governed by LABOUR LAWS OF YOUR STATE, where you can take advice from concerned lawyers before replying to the memo or letter.

Also remember that if you do not agree with the contents of the memo then you can accept the letter by putting a remark " Not acceptable, taking this letter under protest" and then you have the time to reply to the letter by taking counseling from a learned labor lawyer.

Once again please note this forum we are basically CIVIL ENGINEERS and not LAWYERS so better to approach right person for the correct remedy.

As far as I know any company/government organization cannot illegally terminate services of an individual, they have to conduct a domestic inquiry first wherein an investigating officer from company side and investigating officer from worker side will conduct the inquiry and ascertain whether the employee in question is guilty and suitable actions are taken based on the misconduct, so become aware of your rights as a WORKMEN.
 

DKT

Apprentice

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Please see the links for your query.

However would like to inform you that you have not shared what kind of memo was issued to you, hence the inability to guide you. But please be aware that you are governed by LABOUR LAWS OF YOUR STATE, where you can take advice from concerned lawyers before replying to the memo or letter.

Also remember that if you do not agree with the contents of the memo then you can accept the letter by putting a remark " Not acceptable, taking this letter under protest" and then you have the time to reply to the letter by taking counseling from a learned labor lawyer.

Once again please note this forum we are basically CIVIL ENGINEERS and not LAWYERS so better to approach right person for the correct remedy.

As far as I know any company/government organization cannot illegally terminate services of an individual, they have to conduct a domestic inquiry first wherein an investigating officer from company side and investigating officer from worker side will conduct the inquiry and ascertain whether the employee in question is guilty and suitable actions are taken based on the misconduct, so become aware of your rights as a WORKMEN.
Thank you for sharing above mentioned links and offering the suggestions.
 

Dnyan Deshmukh

Staff member
After reading this all, i did understood that, this is very sensitive and a government employee should be aware of the rights they have and it can happen that, there are high chance of receiving a memo or show cause notice or disciplinary actions.

@amd007 thanks for the valuable reply and suggestions.